Troubleshooting vBulletin Problems Discuss Banning in the vBulletinSetup Information forums; Hi Brandon I noticed you wrote 7. If you want to ban a person's IP, ban just that exact IP. Never ban a partial IP because for ISPs such as ...

[Happy-Harry]

Hi Brandon

I noticed you wrote

7. If you want to ban a person's IP, ban just that exact IP. Never ban a partial IP because for ISPs such as AOL and other dialups, you risk banning random users by accident.

However, if you band a single IP ... What really is that doing! Surely next time offender comes to your site he can simply get a new ip address. Plus there is a small chance you hit the wrong target ie two people share the same IP adress.

Happy-Harry

[henry_nguyen]

yes, i agree with the happy harry, isnce there are alot of country out there using the same ip for their internet users. There are alot of users going to the library for example

oh man.. you just ban the whole library

[Brandon Sheley]

well, we use 3 or 4 hacks to help with banning.. Your right, there is a chance that if I ban X ip, it may ban someone else too..

The users that I'm targeting already have enough money to buy vB, and 99.9999% will have their own pc with net access, so I'm not to worried about banning a group by mistake.

btw Happy, please take a sec and reply to the PM I sent you so that you can access the whole site

-Bs

[Happy-Harry]

Originally Posted by Brandon

well, we use 3 or 4 hacks to help with banning.. Your right, there is a chance that if I ban X ip, it may ban someone else too..

Can you share with us what 3-4 you use?

Regards

happy-harry

[Brandon Sheley]

ya, I'll have to look them up, and I'll post what we use here

[Happy-Harry]

Thanks. I'm considering the miserable users hack. Does anybody know if there is a way a spammer can get round this.
ie 1/ Do they know or find out they are a miserable uers & 2/ Can they side track like by some sort of alternative method?

Happy-harry

[Nzarect]

Originally Posted by Happy-Harry

Thanks. I'm considering the miserable users hack. Does anybody know if there is a way a spammer can get round this.
ie 1/ Do they know or find out they are a miserable uers & 2/ Can they side track like by some sort of alternative method?

Happy-harry

they won't know about it, they'll just think something is wrong with the site

[Happy-Harry]

Can they side track like by some sort of alternative method?

I read somewhere ... something about cookies. Which I did not quite understand.

[Brandon Sheley]

Originally Posted by Happy-Harry

Thanks. I'm considering the miserable users hack. Does anybody know if there is a way a spammer can get round this.
ie 1/ Do they know or find out they are a miserable uers & 2/ Can they side track like by some sort of alternative method?

Happy-harry

There are a few different settings as to what the banned users See's..

like.. sever error
site broken
slow site ( you can adjust how slow )
and some other options that I don't remember.
Basically, it is buying you time and trying to discourage the user from coming back.. They might just think your site is jacked up.

Originally Posted by Happy-Harry

I read somewhere ... something about cookies. Which I did not quite understand.

yes, your login info is stored in your browser cookies. You can clear your cookies and then go back to the site, and you wont be loged in.. so if when they are loged in and the site is slow, they clear their cookies and log out and the site runs fine.. They might catch on..lol



Here is a list of hacks we use to ban users and keep away spam and banning..

Miserable users - vBulletin.org Forum
SpamBuster v1.0.0 (Stable): Identify, log and remove spam posts on your forum - vBulletin.org Forum
Akismet Anti-Spam - vBulletin.org Forum
these 3 are really great.

Cyb - Advanced Permissions Based on User's Post Count - vBulletin.org Forum
and this one is very handy :cool:

[Xplorer4x4]

Originally Posted by Happy-Harry

I read somewhere ... something about cookies. Which I did not quite understand.

vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=121886
I can testify for the miserable users hack. I had a member ask me via IM why the forum wasnt working, told him server probs and he bought it

[Happy-Harry]

Miserable users is "sick" I love it. All hail the author ... somebody must have really upset him/her.