What do you think of Zoints ?

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-24-2006, 07:28 PM

I may be a bit stubborn, but I haven't liked the zoints networks from day one..
but..

It's slowing etching away on me, and there is a new tagging mod that I really like.

The whole program could really help a site like ours, and with vbseo being able to put a rel=nofollow attribute on all links, I'm not worried about PR leak..

I want to ask you guys what you think of zoints ?

**Code Monkey** · 09-24-2006, 07:34 PM

Not much. That will be the next overblown and overgrown market.

Also, there is no such thing as pr leak. That's a myth that just isn't true. You don't lose pr by linking to others. You lose it by not being linked to.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-24-2006, 07:50 PM

then why bother with the nofollow attribute ?

**Code Monkey** · 09-24-2006, 08:01 PM

For that you will have to do your own research. But I suspect it is to keep the spider on your site. Who knows, there are a lot of things we do in life that we have no idea why we do. *shrugs*

I could be wrong, but I have read far more against this belief than for.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-24-2006, 08:04 PM

ah, well other then the zoints looking ugly, I don't think it would have a negative affect on this site..

You think zoints wont last though ? it has a pretty large following, and they are releasing hacks now..

they have made some good moves as far as marketing, seems pretty solid..

As I said, I've been very much against zoints, but if it will help this site out, I'll give it a shot..

**Code Monkey** · 09-24-2006, 08:20 PM

Have some fun watching these folks go at in on pr leakage.

Best way for one way outbound link?

If it were true, every directory listing would have pr 0.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-24-2006, 08:23 PM

ya, but directories have links back too

btw, can we talk about zoints. :p

here is a DP thread too..lol
have you used zoints ?

Crow · 10-05-2006, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

For that you will have to do your own research. But I suspect it is to keep the spider on your site. Who knows, there are a lot of things we do in life that we have no idea why we do. *shrugs*

I could be wrong, but I have read far more against this belief than for.

This is what I've always thought its for to keep the spiders on your site to get them to gain as much pages as you can..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon

I may be a bit stubborn, but I haven't liked the zoints networks from day one..
but..

It's slowing etching away on me, and there is a new tagging mod that I really like.

The whole program could really help a site like ours, and with vbseo being able to put a rel=nofollow attribute on all links, I'm not worried about PR leak..

I want to ask you guys what you think of zoints ?

I never liked it from day one either, but thats me. I want members to my site that want to be on my site and search out and find it...

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-05-2006, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow

I never liked it from day one either, but thats me. I want members to my site that want to be on my site and search out and find it...

This is what I'm leaning towards.. I thy to put myself in the users place.. If i was a new vb admin, would I be hanging out at zoints looking for help with my vBulleitn board :|

One of the main reasons that I like this is because they have a "tag" system that is pretty cool.. I think vbseo will be adding it as it could help SEO, so I think I'll just wait for them

Crow · 10-05-2006, 08:40 PM

Well for shits and giggles I set my site up for this zoints thingy, But so far I'm not sure what it really does other then allow there members to view your forums, its not like there members come to your site and sign-up??

I might be way off here but since my sites not even really open just yet I thought what the hell lets see what this things got to offer.. already I can say I'm not that impressed with it, we'll see I'll let it run for a few days then go from there..

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-05-2006, 08:56 PM

you can make your sig a link if you like

is that the forum your talking about ?

let us know how the z^ works out

Crow · 10-05-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon

you can make your sig a link if you like

is that the forum your talking about ?

let us know how the z^ works out

I'm not expecting much tbh.. I still have a s#$tload of work to still do to my site, what you see is only about two nights work, Still have style issues and not to mention all the content I have to add.. :1eek:

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-05-2006, 09:35 PM

well I think you have a great domain

it's looking good so far

just keep adding content and the traffic will come..
oh, a few strong back links wouldn't hurt either

**Greek76** · 10-06-2006, 01:45 AM

I have zoints I dont see what the big thing is about it.

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-06-2006, 04:26 AM

have you seen any new sign ups from it ?

**Greek76** · 10-06-2006, 11:09 AM

Ive had three members this week but I dont think it has anything to do with Zoints to be honest. Im actually going to disable it. It could of been the 485 directories I submitted my site to lol.

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-06-2006, 11:34 AM

I added something to the profiles here to help me track who are legit vb owners..

if you check your

http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/prof...do=editoptions

you'll see a field that asked "how you found our site" or something to that extent..

most users say google, or vb.org here

I've only had 15 new users sign up since I did it, but it's pretty effective.. you should add a field like this on your site,, see if they say search engines or sites

just a suggestion

**G_Man** · 10-07-2006, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon

This is what I'm leaning towards.. I thy to put myself in the users place.. If i was a new vb admin, would I be hanging out at zoints looking for help with my vBulleitn board :|

One of the main reasons that I like this is because they have a "tag" system that is pretty cool.. I think vbseo will be adding it as it could help SEO, so I think I'll just wait for them

Actually, if you are thinking Zoints and worried about that I'd join NOW, not later.

I have had few join my forum (but I am not looking for random new members, so they were all invites - shocking, I know!! ) EVERY person who has joined through Zoints is either Admin or a Moderator at another forum. I bet 10-15% of the current membership are Moderators/Admin for a forum.

So, get in there NOW so you have more exposure to these people. Eventually as the membership grows less of them will be looking for this type of stuff.

I know if I was on Zoints now and saw a related tag I would have at least checked this site out.

Just my tuppence...

And here is my link if you want to look - nearly all my 'friends' are Admin/Mods.

G_Man's Zoints Profile

and for the record, even though I am on Zoints, my forum is not a registered Zoints Forum.

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-07-2006, 09:43 AM

That's a good point about the percentages of admins on zoints now..

I have a mega packed weekend, maybe I'll integrated it on Tuesday..

I'm just so torn on it..lol

06-20-2007, 03:16 PM

Sorry for the bump. If it's not allowed just yell at me :P

I personally don't like Zoints. Seems like just a bunch of useless stuff. It sounded good on paper (or should say screen) but when I installed it on a forum I tech admin'd, I didn't find anything special about it. I ignored the feature altogether and later uninstalled it after a vB upgrade. Didn't see the point in adding something no one liked/used and no one has missed it.

**Brandon Sheley** · 06-20-2007, 03:45 PM

We tried the zoints profile hack for a few weeks but I ended up removing it because I just didn't care how it looked.
We've been using the thread tag hack but I don't require users to add tags when posting.. After we get the bugs worked out, I may start.

-Brandon

**Greek76** · 06-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Zoints local has not been popular on my forum at all. Myself and a few others out of 500 members actually use it. The problem is it does not have a friendly user interface I believe. Im actually considering removing it. Zoints seo is good in my opinion it seems to be doing the trick and its free lol.

**Michael Biddle** · 06-20-2007, 04:03 PM

lol hahahhahahahaha

Does that answer this question?

**Brandon Sheley** · 06-20-2007, 04:21 PM

You might want to check out vS-Interactive Profiles - vBulletin.org Forum

**Greek76** · 06-20-2007, 04:28 PM

This mod which Ive seen here looks good so I might actually use it. I also need to uninstall zoints profile which for some reason I think its going to give me problems.

**Brandon Sheley** · 06-20-2007, 04:33 PM

It shouldn't
Just shoot me a pm if you need a hand
Or my messenger icons should be in my profile if you want to IM me..

**Greek76** · 06-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Thanks just deleted it with no problem and now Im going to install interactive profile. Hopefully that works good.

**Brandon Sheley** · 06-20-2007, 04:44 PM

have fun with the memberinfo edits

just take your time and you'll get it

**Michael Biddle** · 06-20-2007, 04:44 PM

Yea, lol, have fun with them

**Greek76** · 06-20-2007, 04:49 PM

OMG haha I just noticed the amount of template edits. I think Ill hold off with it until tommorow lol. Did you guys have problems installing it? Did it go smoothly?