Adsense locations on forums

08-02-2007, 12:59 PM

I haven't used adsense in quite some time, but I figured I'd try it out for a while with one of my small, growing forums. I know there are quite a few sites out there with recommendations as to where to put ads, but I figured I'd try it out myself on a vB forum.

I'm going to be doing different placements for the ads for months. Each month I'll change the placement of the ads and then compare and see if there are any noticable differences.

One thing you should know is that I added conditionals that make it so only guests can see the ads. Some people don’t like doing this because it limits the amount of people seeing it, but I personally think that your members are less likely to click an advertisement than a guest. Also, why harass registered members with ads when you can keep it nice and clean for them without them?

My Setup for this month:
LinkUnits Matching my forums colors and scheme in sidebar and under the navbar.

taken from my blog: Google Adsense locations and setups

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-02-2007, 01:20 PM

It will be nice to track the changes.

I just switched the ads under the navbar bar last night to a bigger ad

I only show the ads to guest as well.

08-02-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

It will be nice to track the changes.

I just switched the ads under the navbar bar last night to a bigger ad

I only show the ads to guest as well.

Yeah, I hope to see some big differences. This month I'm starting out with them there and not very aggressive or too attention catching. Next month I'll try something that contrasts the site a bit.

I'm not sure which will work better, as I know I (and probably others too) have basically become ad-blind. if they look like google ads, or yahoo ads, you just don't even notice them anymore. So that is part of my thinking with keeping it as close to my theme as possible now

**OS Master** · 08-02-2007, 02:42 PM

I usually have ads between posts where members are more likely to see it. But your experiment will give me and other PPC users an idea of where to put ads. But it really is different for every site.

08-02-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OS Master

I usually have ads between posts where members are more likely to see it. But your experiment will give me and other PPC users an idea of where to put ads. But it really is different for every site.

I'm probably gonna do that as well, but just for guests. I just don't want ads for my members.

**OS Master** · 08-02-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket 442

I'm probably gonna do that as well, but just for guests. I just don't want ads for my members.

Yeah. You do have a good point; although members that want to support your site will click your ads too.

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-02-2007, 09:27 PM

I don't know that I'd want my members clicking the ads. If google seen a lot of clicks from the same ip's :abowsucker1:

**OS Master** · 08-03-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

I don't know that I'd want my members clicking the ads. If google seen a lot of clicks from the same ip's :abowsucker1:

That's a good point; usually there are more guests than members online.

**Big Dan** · 08-03-2007, 07:45 AM

I ran adsense for everyone (members and unreg'd) for about 6 months on of my boards. I didn't run into any problems with the big G. Now, I have private advertisers so I just run adsense on my archive pages, I get a few clicks here and there.

I think people are getting adsense blind, I know I really have to look for the ads to see them or they have to be in face enough for me to be annoyed by them.

Adsense is a dying breed.. Google keeps lowering the PPC rate, for low traffic sites it's not even worth copy/pasting the code. :damn:

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-03-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Boy

Adsense is a dying breed.. Google keeps lowering the PPC rate, for low traffic sites it's not even worth copy/pasting the code. :damn:

That's for sure, it took me 3 years to earn my first 100 from google

**OS Master** · 08-03-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

That's for sure, it took me 3 years to earn my first 100 from google

According to how long I had AdSense and how much I have right now, it will take me more than 5 years to reach payout.

08-03-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OS Master

According to how long I had AdSense and how much I have right now, it will take me more than 5 years to reach payout.

Yeah, its pretty dismal nowadays.

Anyone have info on any up-and-coming advertising methods or sites that I could review just let me know.

Seems like all the CPC ones don't do much anymore.

**OS Master** · 08-03-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket 442

Yeah, its pretty dismal nowadays.

Anyone have info on any up-and-coming advertising methods or sites that I could review just let me know.

Seems like all the CPC ones don't do much anymore.

Yeah, PPC is declining rapidly. People either use ad blockers or just don't care about clicking ads anymore. So I would also like a new idea of revenue for your website.

**Caddyman** · 08-03-2007, 05:11 PM

dang, i do about 50 a month.........and my site is small, im changing my ads tonight

you have to chage them like once a week so visitors dont go blind to them. and the 468x60 in the threadview is a killer

this one here

out of 132 click last month, that one got 70

**OS Master** · 08-03-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddyman

dang, i do about 50 a month.........and my site is small, im changing my ads tonight

you have to chage them like once a week so visitors dont go blind to them. and the 468x60 in the threadview is a killer

this one here

out of 132 click last month, that one got 70

Did you use a mod for that, or did you code it yourself?

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-04-2007, 12:33 AM

I think I'll remove the big ads for guest this weekend.

Since I added it two days ago, my registrations have about gone in half

I've only made about 3$, I think Id rather have more members, then a few more $'s.

**OS Master** · 08-04-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

I think I'll remove the big ads for guest this weekend.

Since I added it two days ago, my registrations have about gone in half

I've only made about 3$, I think Id rather have more members, then a few more $'s.

Yeah, put them in between threads if possible. Or make them smaller.

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-04-2007, 11:03 AM

I have the post between threads already

I replaced the big banners with smaller on es last night.
I might replace the ad's between the post with auction ads, I had 9 clicks yesterday from it.

**OS Master** · 08-04-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

I have the post between threads already

I replaced the big banners with smaller on es last night.
I might replace the ad's between the post with auction ads, I had 9 clicks yesterday from it.

I didn't know because I use ABP. Good luck on the auction ads.

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-04-2007, 02:41 PM

ABP ?
What's that

**OS Master** · 08-04-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

ABP ?
What's that

Adblock Plus. It's an add-on for Firefox, located at Adblock Plus: Save your time and traffic

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-04-2007, 05:53 PM

oh, I can block them with my kapersky if I want

btw.. if your logged in you wont see the ad's at all.

**Big Dan** · 08-04-2007, 06:19 PM

You should be running adsense for members, Brandon! VBS is on of the view sites I allow ads for. I allow ads on all sites I visit regularly, the rest get blocked. Why not generate a few extra clicks? I normally shove mine right on top of the previous/next tread links on showthread.

**OS Master** · 08-05-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Boy

You should be running adsense for members, Brandon! VBS is on of the view sites I allow ads for. I allow ads on all sites I visit regularly, the rest get blocked. Why not generate a few extra clicks? I normally shove mine right on top of the previous/next tread links on showthread.

Yeah, members click ads because they like what's advertised or they want to support your site. But we'll see how this goes and then we'll know for sure what's best.

**lifeinitaly** · 08-05-2007, 04:30 PM

Hello -
I just moved my forum from IIS to Linus ...finally.
Yes I do have to re-position my adsense too. I just noticed that my forum is by far the less click portion ( in percentage ) of the website. Well below 1% -

If anybody here does not know anyway the best book an adsense is to my opinion by Joel Comm - Worth 10 times its cost if you are seriuos about Adsense. I will go pick now where he placed his ads on his forum.
Ciao
Paolo

**OS Master** · 08-05-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lifeinitaly

Hello -
I just moved my forum from IIS to Linus ...finally.
Yes I do have to re-position my adsense too. I just noticed that my forum is by far the less click portion ( in percentage ) of the website. Well below 1% -

If anybody here does not know anyway the best book an adsense is to my opinion by Joel Comm - Worth 10 times its cost if you are seriuos about Adsense. I will go pick now where he placed his ads on his forum.
Ciao
Paolo

Yeah, this experiment should help us all out with optimal ad placement.

**lifeinitaly** · 08-05-2007, 07:44 PM

If you would actually read Joel Comm book it might actually help your optional add placement. Maybe I miss express myself but my problem before was that I could not place the ads correctly because of several head heacks that IIS was giving me in placing ads ( and my poor expertise in vbulletin). However my major source of income in life is adsense and I was trying to help.
Paolo

**Brandon Sheley** · 08-05-2007, 09:35 PM

Brent posted a good thread here
http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/f86/...thin-2364.html

I think I posted one too when I first started the forum.. I'll have to search. If not, it's at vbseo, I'll get that copy

**OS Master** · 08-06-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Brent posted a good thread here
http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/f86/...thin-2364.html

I think I posted one too when I first started the forum.. I'll have to search. If not, it's at vbseo, I'll get that copy

Thanks for these links. I use vBadvanced and I will put skyscraper ads on the left side. I hope I get a few clicks from those.

**Caddyman** · 08-06-2007, 09:29 PM

they perform OK. OS Master, i use vbadmangement hack to get that little ad in the thread list. all the other ads are hand coded into the templates with conditionals for my premium members.