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#1   12-18-2006, 10:30 AM
joh has a spectacular aura about Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 Location: NY
Fake PR


why, why not?
I can see this been very bad if you were selling links to the site. now what would happen if i just open a new site and i wanted my customers to think that i was around for a while. how bad would this be? what would some of the fall back be?

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Domain Names are big business these days, and Pagerank fraud is becoming a serious problem. When someone is offering a domain name for sale, they can artificially inflate the domain's PR. It is achieved when offending domains use a 301 or 302 redirects that point their sites to sites with a high Pagerank. This is a well known trick in the SEO (Search Engine Optimization) world, but people who aren't familiar with SEO are most likely to fall for this.

Enter a domain name like [www.domain-A.com]. Click submit. If the URL from the results is the same as the domain you entered, then its okay. However, if you see URL: http//www.domain-B.com then its a fake.

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#2   12-18-2006, 10:56 AM
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why, why not?
I can see this been very bad if you were selling links to the site. now what would happen if i just open a new site and i wanted my customers to think that i was around for a while. how bad would this be? what would some of the fall back be?
Note : this isn't directed at you per say!
If your a Business and you need to lie about things to get customers, then maybe you should look into making your product better so that you don't have to lie?!?
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#3   12-18-2006, 11:10 AM
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Re: Fake PR


hey, I just asked the questions that others would not. I do not take your comment to Heart. I am sure that this fake PR has been use, I am looking at it as the way some people get people to make post on a site, fake stats on forums, using rss feeds to post in forums, adding a blog to your site, paying for back links to high PR sites.
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#4   12-18-2006, 11:13 AM
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well, I've never really thought about using it to make your forum look bigger.

I guess it could work, it wont bring any more bots to your site, and that is the important part to me.
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#5   12-18-2006, 11:24 AM
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Now I feel the need to clear this up. I have no plans on using this on any type of forum. when i started Huligar Stone Restoration Services I had no pr are even know what seo meant. most of the people that do the type of work that i do is by referral only. I was just thinking that it would be cool if the person that was referred could see a nice pr on the site. people find us because they are looking for us.
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#6   12-18-2006, 02:32 PM
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I think in order to make a url look like it has pr, you have to park it on a site that does have PR.

like I could park vbulletinsetup.com on top of link2share.com ( pr5 ) and vbsetup.com would get pr in time,, but I wouldn't be able to have these forums up and have the url parked on the link2share.com..

so, I'd rather develop the site and get real pr
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#7   12-18-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: Fake PR


Thanks for the info, but my question is, how they can use fake PR?
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#8   12-19-2006, 12:34 AM
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Re: Fake PR


My understanding is that they can’t as long as the people they are trying to dupe have a very small amount of common sense.

In your quote with your opening post you rightly point out that if domain ‘A’ points to domain ‘B’ then it could be attempting to take advantage of this but if I was looking to buy domain ‘A’ and it wasn’t pointed at domain ‘A’ then I would just move along. Also for me personally, there is little point in buying a link off a dormant parked domain, irrespective of its PR. Things like the number of back links and google’s cache of the website can also be checked to help substantiate the seller’s claims if you are in any doubt.

As Brandon says you are far better developing and improving your own sites content while getting natural back links to that to increase your PR. Or if you do want to buy links then do so but on active, live sites.

I guess the old statement of buyer beware could be used here
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#9   12-19-2006, 07:02 AM
joh has a spectacular aura about Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 Location: NY
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hey guys, here is why this question came up.
movie this site has a pr8. If I am out looking for back links how would i know what i am buying? but it did get me thinking.
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#10   12-19-2006, 11:55 PM
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Re: Fake PR


The submitted domain name:lifeandstyletv.com
does not match Google results url:sonypictures.com
This Pagerank is not valid!

Direct url for this result:

Fake PageRank Detection SEO Tool and PR Check - SEO Logs.com
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