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How to SEO vBulletin without VBSEO

Ok, I thought I would throw this together for those people seeking a guide for seo without the help of vbseo. If I leave anything out or if anyone has anything to add please do so. So, here we go. Oh and thanks to all who have helped me and all who I copied some of this info from. I grabbed them from posts on various sites. Thanks Brandon,Joeychgo, Mike54,


1)Remove Powered By Vbulletin tag

Editing the "powered by vBulletin" phrases is something I recommend to every forum owner.
This phrase is showing up in the title tag of every page of your forum.
It's essential in SEO'ing your vBulletin forum..


How to Remove the "- Powered by vBulletin" in page title tags

Go to your ADMINCP> Language & Phrases> Search in Phrases

In your Phrases Search for: x_powered_by_vbulletin (be sure to choose to search by Phrase Text and Phrase Variable Name)

Edit the phrase. Simply change it from {1} - Powered by vBulletin

to {1}

SO your just deleting - Powered by vBulletin


2)Title and description changes

vBulletin handles page titles and descriptions differently then I like.

For starters, the page descriptions do not change from one page to the next. So the description for each and every post and thread are the same. This does not help search engines (or adsense) figure out what a thread is about. You want the titles, descriptions and keywords to be specific to each page / thread.

vBulletin does this in the template "headinclude". We will modify this template first. Remove the following from the template:

Quote:
Code:
<if condition="$show['threadinfo']">
<meta name="keywords" content="$threadinfo[title], $vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="<if condition="$pagenumber>1"><phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase>-</if>$threadinfo[title] $foruminfo[title_clean]" />
<else />
<if condition="$show['foruminfo']">
<meta name="keywords" content="$foruminfo[title_clean], $vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="<if condition="$pagenumber>1"><phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase>-</if>$foruminfo[description_clean]" />
<else />
<meta name="keywords" content="$vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$vboptions[description]" />
</if>
</if>
This removed the description and keywords from the headinclude.

Now, lets go about putting them back in a better manner.

We have to replace them in all vital areas, meaning pages that we want search engines to index.

SO, lets start with the forumhome template.

Look for:

Quote:
Code:
$headinclude
<title><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin]</phrase></title>
Now, first, move the $headinclude to below the title line, and insert this inbetween the two.

Quote:
Code:
<title><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin]</phrase></title>
<meta name="keywords" content="$vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$vboptions[description]" />
$headinclude
Like this you will be using the description and keywords that you set under vBulletin options. If you want to be specific to the page, you can change the areas in red below and use that:

Quote:
Code:
<title> <phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin]</phrase> </title>
<meta name="keywords" content="$vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$vboptions[description] " />
$headinclude
Ok... Thats the forumhome. Now onto the forum display template.

In the forumdisplay you have:

Quote:
Code:
$headinclude
<title>$foruminfo[title_clean]<if condition="$pagenumber>1"> - <phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase></if> - $vboptions[bbtitle]</title>
We are going to make a similar change as we did on forumhome...

Quote:
Code:
<title>$foruminfo[title_clean]<if condition="$pagenumber>1"> - <phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase></if> - $vboptions[bbtitle]</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="$foruminfo[title] $vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$foruminfo[description] $foruminfo[title]" />

$headinclude
There are 2 main changes here. First, your pulling keywords from the vBulletin options as with the forumhome, but your also adding the forum name to the keywords... Second, you have a description that is specific to each individual forum. The description you get breaks down like this:

$foruminfo[description] = the description you entered for the forum in the forum manager

$foruminfo[description] = the title of the individual forum.

If you like, you can swap these around - like
<meta name="$foruminfo[title] $foruminfo[description]" />


Ok, now onto the Showthread template:

Here again, you have this:

Quote:
Code:
$headinclude
<title>$thread[title]<if condition="$pagenumber>1"> - <phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase></if> - $vboptions[bbtitle]</title>
Change it to this: (changing the red text to something specific to your forum)

Quote:
Code:
<title>$thread[title]<if condition="$pagenumber>1"> - <phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase></if> - $foruminfo[title]</title>
<meta name="description" content="$thread[title] is discussed at vBulletin FAQ - $foruminfo[title]" />
<meta name="keywords" content="$thread[title] $vboptions[keywords]" />
$headinclude
The breakdown here is this:

You are changing the title slightly by removing the site name, and replacing it with the name of the forum that the thread is in.

You are adding the description which will now have: The Title of the thread + The red text + the title of the forum the thread is in. Lots of keywords in your description now.

You are also adding the keywords that you placed in vBulletin Options, as well as the thread title which is also in the keywords now.

I also like to do the Showthread_showpost and Memberinfo templates. These arent really important, but I like to do them anyway.

With Showthread_showpost you start with:

Quote:
Code:
$headinclude
<title>$vboptions[bbtitle] - $vbphrase[view_single_post] - $threadinfo[title]</title>
and change it to:


Quote:
Code:
<title>$vboptions[bbtitle] - $vbphrase[view_single_post] - $threadinfo[title]</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="$thread[title] $vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$thread[title] $foruminfo[title] $foruminfo[description] " />
$headinclude
and for Memberinfo you have:

Quote:
Code:
$headinclude
<title>$vboptions[bbtitle] - $vbphrase[view_profile]: $userinfo[username]</title>
and Change it to

Quote:
Code:
<title>$userinfo[username]'s profile on $vboptions[bbtitle]</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="$vboptions[keywords]" />
<meta name="description" content="$vboptions[description]" />
$headinclude
Thats a start. Dont be afraid to customize this a bit for your particular forum.

3) Remove forum titles from threads

Once you've established your forum title in vBulletin Options, that title will appear on all sub-forum, member profile and thread pages. I am of the opinion you can experience much better thread title relevancy by removing the forum title from these pages.

Since everyone removes the 'Powered by vBulletin' from their titles, why not take it a step further and remove the forum title, as well?

This is a simple modification to make.

1. Log into your Admin CP

2. Select Styles & Templates, then select Style Manager

3. Select the style you want to edit and then Edit Templates

4. Select the FORUMDISPLAY template. In the Title tag, near the top of the template, you are looking for
Code:

$vboptions[bbtitle]

5. Delete that code and save the template.

6. Repeat steps 4 & 5 for the MEMBERINFO template and for the SHOWTHREAD template.

This will remove the forum title from the title of the page, giving more weight to the actual thread title.

4)Adding H1 Tags to your Forum and Threads

H1, H2 and H3 tags can help search engines such as Google, Yahoo and MSN figure out what a web page is about.

SO this is an important mod to make. It also is good for your members as it gives a more descriptive introduction to a thread.

As always, you should back up your forums before making any changes.

In the FORUMDISPLAY template find

Quote:
$navbar
and Below it add:

Quote:
Code:
<br />
<center>
<h1 class="myh1">$foruminfo[title_clean]</h1>
<h2 class="myh2">$foruminfo[description]</h2>
</center>
<br />
This adds the Forum Name in the H1 Tags and the Forum Description in the H2 tags. It also places these items below the navbar when you visit a forum.

In your SHOWTHREAD template find

Quote:
Code:
$navbar
and Below it add:

Quote:
Code:
<br />
<center>
<h1 class="myh1">$thread[title]</h1>
<h2 class="myh2">$foruminfo[title_clean]</h2>
</center>
<br />
This adds the Thread Title in the H1 Tags and the Forum Name in the H2 tags. It also places these items below the navbar when you visit a thread.

Now. You can control the size and appearance of H1, H2 and H3 tags via your CSS if you choose.

For example. In your Style Manager, Main CSS, under Additional CSS Definitions, scroll to the bottom and add something such as this:

(This will make all the H1 & H2 tags using this class appear like this, forum wide) This is the code we use here to give you an idea of how it looks.

Quote:
Code:
/* ***** H1 Tags ***** */
h1.myh1 {font-family: Arial; font-size: 20px;
color: #000000; font-weight: bold;}

h2.myh2 {font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px;
color: #000000; font-weight: bold;}
You can change the font, font size and whether its bold or not by simply changing the variables. You can also change the color if you like.

5).htaccess to stop duplicate content

Open up notepad on your computer and paste this code into your notepad

Quote:
Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yoursitename\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.yoursitename.com/$1 [R=301,L]
Obviously replace yoursitename with the name of your site. You can also replace .com with whatever type of domain you have for example .net, .info, etc...

Then go to file at the top save as and name it .htaccess...Make sure to save it as all files...Now just upload it to the root folder of your site

6) You must have a sitemap...

So use this mod
vBSEO Google/Yahoo Sitemap Generator - vBulletin.org Forum

7) Sign up for the various Search engine tools to add your site..
Google webmaster tools
Msn Webmaster center
Yahoo site explorer
I would add your sitemap to all three of those, it does help.Plus, these tools are useful for checking on your sites.

8)Robots.txt

It depends on the site that you have but you can google and find many examples of them are just go to large sites and add /robots.txt after there forum root and see what others have.

http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/robots.txt as an example

9)Validate your pages

The W3C Markup Validation Service


I hope that all helps, I cant think of anything else right now, but I will add it if I do.If anyone else has something to add please do
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Re: How to Seo Vbulletin without VBSEO

Thanks for putting this together!
I've added a few reffrence links
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Re: How to Seo Vbulletin without VBSEO

Yeah, looks better with the blue links anyway
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Re: How to Seo Vbulletin without VBSEO

This is an awesome post!

Could you please explain what exactly step #5 does?
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Re: How to SEO vBulletin without VBSEO

5).htaccess to stop duplicate content

Open up notepad on your computer and paste this code into your notepad

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yoursitename\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.yoursitename.com/$1 [R=301,L]

This step makes your site only show up as airline tickets cell phone deals at whatever.com as opposed to being able to access it from both whatever.com and airline tickets cell phone deals at whatever.com. It fixes two problems, sometimes it can cause a cookie problem if your site works for both thus scaring away members, and it also stops duplicate content. So you dont have the same content indexed on two pages.
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Re: How to SEO vBulletin without VBSEO

EXCELLENT Cerberus. Great post.

I did all of this on my forum a while back, and I can attest to the fact that it does, indeed, work.
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5).htaccess to stop duplicate content

Open up notepad on your computer and paste this code into your notepad

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yoursitename\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.yoursitename.com/$1 [R=301,L]

This step makes your site only show up as airline tickets cell phone deals at whatever.com as opposed to being able to access it from both whatever.com and airline tickets cell phone deals at whatever.com. It fixes two problems, sometimes it can cause a cookie problem if your site works for both thus scaring away members, and it also stops duplicate content. So you dont have the same content indexed on two pages.
I figured that's what it was. I also asked to sort-of hint that it should be added in the original post.

One of the first things I do when I start a new site is re-write from non-WWW to WWW. Not just for the sake of avoiding cookie issues and for the SEO benefit - but it just irks me to see a site without WWW in the URL. :p
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I must say its easier purchasing vBSEO, but I am going to use this as I can't afford a 2nd copy, yet
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Tip re: H tags

I personally don't like the way this makes the H1 and H2 tags look, so I simply use the already-standard smallfont class for H2 and create a new class identical to smallfont but with font-weight:strong and use it for H1.
This is a much cleaner look, IMO. Feel free to see how it looks here: General Lineolated Parakeet Talk - Lineolated Parakeet Forum

I also have a question. Would it be a good idea to wrap h2 tags around the sub-forums on the FORUMDISPLAY template? E.g., click the link I mentioned above and you will see there are 3 sub-forums. I'm wondering if it's wise to have them wrapped in h2 or h3 tags.

Additionally, what about wrapping the thread titles in the threadlist (on the forumdisplay.php page) in h3 or h4 tags? Is this recommended?

Oh, one more: What about wrapping forum titles and descriptions on the INDEX with H tags? Is this a good idea?

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Re: How to SEO vBulletin without VBSEO

Well, if you want them to convey importance then I would see nothing wrong with taking it a step further. I myself usually stop at the H1 and H2. Plus, most people like the fact it makes it easier for them to read that way, with them centered above the posts. But you can do that for as much as you want, just remember whatever you tag with them gives them more importance, and you dont want to dilute your importance too much. You want to keep the most important, well..most important

And yeah you can change the class or make your own class and pretty it up.
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I like the way the H1 and H2 tags look. You can adjust both the font size and the color.
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Wheww, finally I'm able to post! vB really needs a "connect" type authentication system, or even Open ID... it took me 10 minutes and a bunch of refreshes, email checks, etc. to be able to register here (Sorry Brandon, but this registration system sucks - so does mine lol)

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Yep, this is a good start. I don't see however how the method gets rid of "duplicate" content in native form (which vBSEO does). I'm referrng to link consensus as I usually refer to it.

Btw, you didn't mention rel=canonical in your guide which might help (if you are not using vBSEO), but it's by far a conclusive solution. Canonicals hint Google at meta-level, which is not the same as true link consensus. vBSEO eliminates duplicate pages. Canonicals just try to direct Google through the mess.
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I'm thinking about purchasing vBSEO and wondering if these changes are necessary if I purchase it? Been hem-hawing on it for a long time and think I'm going to take the plunge for at least one of my vb sites.
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I'm thinking about purchasing vBSEO and wondering if these changes are necessary if I purchase it? Been hem-hawing on it for a long time and think I'm going to take the plunge for at least one of my vb sites.
This guide is mainly for use by those who don't use vBSEO. vBSEO does a lot of this on its own.
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Okay thanks for the reply!
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Also kinda need vBulletin to use vBSEO with.
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Some good tips in here -- proper page titles are HUGE for SEO

Another tip with this: Don't feel bad if you rename threads to become more relevant to the subject matter. You can choose to discuss this with the thread starter if you'd wish. Find the threads that are bringing traffic in or popular topics, but don't have great/relevant page/thread titles but may in the content of the thread, do keyword research on more relevant terms for the posting and give it a try!
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this is defeintly a good guide, i do most all of this to my non vbseo sites and they all rank well.
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adding the forum title to forum and sub forum title tags.

I made these changes How to SEO vBulletin without VBSEO

and I have a tech sub forum that shows "Tech" on top of the browser without the title of the forum that I would like to change and threads that I would like to add the sub forum titles to the thread titles that shows on top of the browser.

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I got vbseo so forget it. It is a question that needs to be answered though. It has something to do with 3) Remove forum titles from threads

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5).htaccess to stop duplicate content

Open up notepad on your computer and paste this code into your notepad

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yoursitename\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.yoursitename.com/$1 [R=301,L]
Can you please tell me what does this code do? I mean how a duplicate content can be made on my forum? or by saying duplicate content you meant multiple threads with same content?

I have done point # 3 from your guideline
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Cerberus, thanks for the tips. This is great. I have implemented it on my forum.
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What excatly is the purpose of adding "is discussed at vBulletin FAQ -" to SHOWTHREAD ?
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:37 PM   #24
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Can you please tell me what does this code do? I mean how a duplicate content can be made on my forum? or by saying duplicate content you meant multiple threads with same content?

I have done point # 3 from your guideline
By doing this you make your domain point to one domain..So instead of having your site indexed as www.yoursite.com .And yoursite.com....You only have the one...Just stops from having the same pages indexed twice
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:35 PM   #25
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:12 AM   #26
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Forgive me if this is so obvious it's stupid..

all i can find under my SHOWTHREAD template is this..

$headinclude
<title>$thread[prefix_plain_html] $thread[title]<if condition="$pagenumber>1"> - <phrase 1="$pagenumber">$vbphrase[page_x]</phrase></if> - $vboptions[bbtitle]</title>

Im guessing that is what im supposed to change since it is nearly identical??

EDIT:
Also...it says when copying and pasting to change the red text to my forum specifically. I see no redtext! lol...my forum is www.turbofordcentral.com so what exactly do i need to go back and edit to make it forum specific for me?

also..im using vb3.8

ok third and final edit i hope!! haha...in the MEMBERINFO template it reads:

<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_tabctrl.js?v=$vboptions[simpleversion]"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_quick_edit_generic.js?v=$vboptions[simpleversion]"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_quick_edit_visitormessage.js?v=$vboption s[simpleversion]"></script>

<title>$vboptions[bbtitle] - $vbphrase[view_profile]: $userinfo[username]</title>

Thats a quick copy and paste, as you can see there was no $headerinclude before, im going to go ahead and copy what you listed over that section but just wanted to make sure i didn't need to go back and edit it or do something different.

Forgot about this...
3) Remove forum titles from threads

Once you've established your forum title in vBulletin Options, that title will appear on all sub-forum, member profile and thread pages. I am of the opinion you can experience much better thread title relevancy by removing the forum title from these pages.

Since everyone removes the 'Powered by vBulletin' from their titles, why not take it a step further and remove the forum title, as well?

This is a simple modification to make.

1. Log into your Admin CP

2. Select Styles & Templates, then select Style Manager

3. Select the style you want to edit and then Edit Templates

4. Select the FORUMDISPLAY template. In the Title tag, near the top of the template, you are looking for
Code:

$vboptions[bbtitle]

5. Delete that code and save the template.

6. Repeat steps 4 & 5 for the MEMBERINFO template and for the SHOWTHREAD template.

Step six, was that meant to say SHOWTHREAD_SHOWPOST?

Thats the only place I knew you had me look before that had the $vboptions[bbtitle] file to delete..and I still have that HUGE vbulletin logo at the top all over my site. Any thoughts?
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this is defeintly a good guide, i do most all of this to my non vbseo sites and they all rank well.
I think I'm going to give it a try. I have had VBSEO on one of my sites for a year now and I have seen no effect what-so-ever.
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I've used these before VBSEO and that definitely did help....
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Thanks for putting this together!
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Thank you for posting all that information.
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