vbseo

**Barry** · 02-17-2007, 07:47 AM

I cant use vbseo because my server wont support it Is it worth while switching hosting providers to get it?

**Brandon Sheley** · 02-17-2007, 10:43 AM

who is your host ? most host don't mind adding Zend or Ioncube

Lizard King · 02-17-2007, 10:45 AM

It definately worth purchasing vBSEO. I strongly advise you to move a better hosting company and purchase vBSEO without loosing any minute.

**ninjashoes** · 04-10-2007, 05:09 PM

dont buy VBseo
buy a few good backlinks instead

**Caddyman** · 04-10-2007, 05:13 PM

+1 $150 is almost another license. and i use zoints with satisfaction

**Brandon Sheley** · 04-10-2007, 05:40 PM

nothing will compare to what vbseo can do

if it where me, I sure wouldn't use the zoints version..
You can't even make a sitemap with the rewritten urls

-Bs

**ninjashoes** · 04-12-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

nothing will compare to what vbseo can do

if it where me, I sure wouldn't use the zoints version..
You can't even make a sitemap with the rewritten urls

-Bs

Sitemaps dont do anything, if all your pages are linked then your site is its own sitemap. They are only beneficial if there are pages that arent linked. All my pages are indexed just fine.

Zoints combined with your own modifications and hacks works perfect and is free.

Please explain to me what VBSEO can do that I can't get with free hacks or do myself?

**Brandon Sheley** · 04-13-2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjashoes

Please explain to me what VBSEO can do that I can't get with free hacks or do myself?

of mind

I don't have to spend Hours adding hacks and modifying my board.. I can install vbseo in about 5 mins, and then maybe another 5 mins of checking some settings and I'm done.

To do the same thing with free hacks, would involve at least 6 hacks, and that doesn't include the great support vbseo gives. plus a number of things No hack does like vbseo.

like
relevant replacements
archive footer links
controlling what url's get nofollow and what don't
tracking linkbacks
dynamic META tags
removes 99% of the duplicate content
some guest only tweaks..

I could go on, but I need to head to class.

some of the things I just said are available from other hacks, but it's a matter of time and security to me

cheers
-Bs

ps. when I've set a site up with zoints, I never added any custom rewrite rules. ?

**Caddyman** · 04-13-2007, 05:11 AM

what is a custom rewrite rule?

**Code Monkey** · 04-13-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjashoes

dont buy VBseo
buy a few good backlinks instead

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjashoes

Sitemaps dont do anything, if all your pages are linked then your site is its own sitemap. They are only beneficial if there are pages that arent linked. All my pages are indexed just fine.

Zoints combined with your own modifications and hacks works perfect and is free.

Please explain to me what VBSEO can do that I can't get with free hacks or do myself?

I'm about 100% sure where you normaly hang out. Bad advice brings bad results. So let's see how your sites look on google shall we? Going by the sites in your sig.

MMA News - UFC Results - Pride fighting

At page 41 of your google viewable cached pages all your results are supplemental from there on. That sucks. And at page 94 you get the dreaded duplicate content message. site:ninjashoes.net - Google Search

It shows 29,200 pages cached for that site. But if we look for supplemental results specifically we find that 26,400 pages are supplimental results. site:ninjashoes.net *** -view - Google Search

That really really sucks big time.

Shall I tear apart your other sites for you? Your advice is flippant and without merrit.

People, do your homework before you listen to these repeaters of vBSEO hate. They all come from a few specific sites that hate vBSEO for some reason and they all repeat the same line. Look at the facts to determine how you will run your site.

**ninjashoes** · 04-13-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Code Monkey

I'm about 100% sure where you normaly hang out. Bad advice brings bad results. So let's see how your sites look on google shall we? Going by the sites in your sig.

MMA News - UFC Results - Pride fighting

At page 41 of your google viewable cached pages all your results are supplemental from there on. That sucks. And at page 94 you get the dreaded duplicate content message. site:ninjashoes.net - Google Search

It shows 29,200 pages cached for that site. But if we look for supplemental results specifically we find that 26,400 pages are supplimental results. site:ninjashoes.net *** -view - Google Search

That really really sucks big time.

Shall I tear apart your other sites for you? Your advice is flippant and without merrit.

People, do your homework before you listen to these repeaters of vBSEO hate. They all come from a few specific sites that hate vBSEO for some reason and they all repeat the same line. Look at the facts to determine how you will run your site.

Sites get indexed and reindexed all the time. Googles cache is constantly expanding and contracting. I do experiment alot and if I do have duplicate content issues Im sure there are things I can improve upon.

However...attacking my site was just childish and makes you look like someone with no valid arguments who lashes out. You didnt explain how VBSEO would correct my problem you just threatened to "attack" my other sites.

I never attacked you, your site, this forum or anything besides the VBSEO product.

Brandon did a great job countering my argument, I can tell hes a chill guy but you went and got all nasty lol.

I'm not even gonna stoop to your level and comment on your sites or anything like that, its just petty. If you think personal attacks are a good way get people posting on your forum, mr. moderator, then I'm going to have to tell you to grow up and stop taking attacks on things like VBSEO personally.

Thanks Brandon for your intelligent response and thanks Code Monkey for that embarassing little outburst...

Feel free to delete this post or make another nasty rebuttal if it makes you feel better, attack my site some more if you want, it just shows your ignorance and inability to have a real adult discussion.

**Code Monkey** · 04-13-2007, 04:29 PM

LOL, your the one getting nasty with attacks. I attacked your statement and your bad advice, not you. The truth remains your statements were unbased and meant as attacks against a fine product without merrit. Back up your claims next time and learn to accept when someone counters your claim with facts.

**Brandon Sheley** · 04-13-2007, 04:30 PM

I can't speak for CM but I think he was just using those ur's for examples in google ?

Honestly, I've never really understood what "supplemental results" look like

I have an idea, I think it's when you'll have several indexed results that look exactly the same. ?

Anyways, google will make all indexed results "unique". I don't know if that can be down with available hacks, but I know all my results w/vBSEO in google are the best that they can be :p

That is if I stop changing the title of the site, I've been testing keyword referrals the last 3 weeks.

Anyways, I do think he was trying to help ninja

cheers
-Bs

**ninjashoes** · 04-13-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Code Monkey

LOL, your the one getting nasty with attacks. I attacked your statement and your bad advice, not you. The truth remains your statements were unbased and meant as attacks against a fine product without merrit. Back up your claims next time and learn to accept when someone counters your claim with facts.

You mean facts like how you can do everything VBSEO does yourself for free?

Are you trying to say this isnt possible?

You were attacking me, I was talking about VBSEO and you started talking about my site in attempt to discredit me. I can even accept that you were simply making an argument there but then you said

Quote:

Shall I tear apart your other sites for you? Your advice is flippant and without merrit.

Now this is just nasty and uncalled for. I dont see how trying to make me look bad or trying to make it seem like I dont know what I'm doing is arguing for VBSEO being worth its cost.

You can't argue against there being free alternatives to VBSEO because its true. You can't argue against VBSEO using questionable advertising tactics because that too is true.

Anyways Im done talking to you.....

**Code Monkey** · 04-13-2007, 05:58 PM

Who says it isn't possible? But giving advice that you yourself have not accomplished is a diservice to this community. Make your statements with facts and evidence next time not as one liners meant to detract.

**ninjashoes** · 04-13-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

I can't speak for CM but I think he was just using those ur's for examples in google ?

Honestly, I've never really understood what "supplemental results" look like

I have an idea, I think it's when you'll have several indexed results that look exactly the same. ?

Anyways, google will make all indexed results "unique". I don't know if that can be down with available hacks, but I know all my results w/vBSEO in google are the best that they can be :p

That is if I stop changing the title of the site, I've been testing keyword referrals the last 3 weeks.

Anyways, I do think he was trying to help ninja

cheers
-Bs

Yes supplemental results are usually a byproduct of duplicate content. How VBSEO would fix this I dont understand. Perhaps having non unique meta descriptions?

I am already using ZointsSEO to give each page unique descriptions.

Anyway Brandon this is a real nice forum, I like what you are doing here even though we disagree on VBSEO.

Code Monkey seems like a kid or something so I'll forgive his rude outburst. Maybe he was trying to help but he certainly wasnt trying to "help" me lol

**Code Monkey** · 04-13-2007, 06:02 PM

More insults eh?

**ninjashoes** · 04-13-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Code Monkey

Who says it isn't possible? But giving advice that you yourself have not accomplished is a diservice to this community. Make your statements with facts and evidence next time not as one liners meant to detract.

I'm sorry I didnt realize I was talking to an successful SEO expert...

I hardly see how me having alot of pages in supplemental is evident of anything especially in relation to VBSEO.

I think your blind worship of VBSEO is the true diservice to the community.

this is what I said

"Zoints combined with your own modifications and hacks works perfect and is free.

Please explain to me what VBSEO can do that I can't get with free hacks or do myself?"

How is my statement or facts wrong? Was I completely out of line by giving my perspective? Did this simple phrase warrant such a nasty response?

Shouldnt people be aware of all the facts about VBSEO? Oh Im sorry, Im not an expert like you so I shouldnt say anything...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

More insults eh?

when in rome, attacking a new members site is just low man, Im not gonna stick around and argue with you for hours but come on even you can admit that was kinda nasty

**Code Monkey** · 04-13-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjashoes

dont buy VBseo
buy a few good backlinks instead

You give advice without stating any facts. How can that be more plain. Or do you think it's ok to visit help sites and just give out help without facts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjashoes

Sitemaps dont do anything, if all your pages are linked then your site is its own sitemap. They are only beneficial if there are pages that arent linked. All my pages are indexed just fine.

Zoints combined with your own modifications and hacks works perfect and is free.

Please explain to me what VBSEO can do that I can't get with free hacks or do myself?

"sitemaps don't do anything" Again, where are the facts to back up this bold statement? Google says sitemaps are a good thing.

"They are only beneficial if there are pages that arent linked." Almost all your pages are supplemental which basically means they are not linked.

"All my pages are indexed just fine." They are? Almost all your pages are supplimental results. Meaning google will not serve them up with as search results unless there is just no other related pages. Not likely.

These are all statements you threw out that are not backed up by facts and can be harmful to the members here seeking quality help. Maybe you are right, if so, back it up with facts not kicking and screaming when someone says your wrong.