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#21   10-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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Looking good. Those are some nice increase in traffic from the search engines.
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#22   10-26-2007, 02:28 PM
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Here's my results.

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Those are Uniques. Not hits and it was a large number.
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#23   10-26-2007, 02:58 PM
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Here are my uniques, month before install in Green, month after in Blue. I'd say its been working.




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#24   10-26-2007, 03:02 PM
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I don't doubt there are outside influences, but let's not get too excited about a months worth of stats. ;)

I'll be looking in after 3 more months. I'm not knocking it. But stats require a lot more time to qualify them as consistent.

Nice improvements. Let's see if it sticks.

I'm watching this one too. vBSEO Test Results - vBulletin FAQ Forums
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#25   10-26-2007, 03:26 PM
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I don't doubt there are outside influences, but let's not get too excited about a months worth of stats. ;)

I'll be looking in after 3 more months. I'm not knocking it. But stats require a lot more time to qualify them as consistent.

Nice improvements. Let's see if it sticks.

I'm watching this one too. vBSEO Test Results - vBulletin FAQ Forums
I guess people just don't like to believe me OTHER THAN vBSEO I have not done ANYTHING differently on my forums. My Keywords are doing much better than ever before I installed vBSEO since I installed it, and increase can't be "outside influences" because I'm the admin and owner and know what was going on. I still to this day have not paid for a backlink, gone out and really searched for places for backlinks and only have my site in maybe 3 directories (counting dmoz).

Installing vBSEO on an already established forum is going to make it harder to see results because of the re-indexing of pages, but looking at his car audio talk site he has there it also looks like he's not pushing it as much as he was before he installed vBSEO. I've got as many active members on my small site in 24 hours as he does on that audio site, so I really don't see that
You can look here and see what i mean. Looks like he's really forgotten about the site after July. That isn't vBSEO, that is the Admin. He's had 2 homepage posts in the past month, yet in July he had about 10. Maybe you should look at that as well
Car Audio Talk Homepage News - Car Audio Forum

I'll be posting up more updates, so maybe you'll get to see it not work, but by the looks of it, it's working quite fine for me.

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#26   10-26-2007, 03:31 PM
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I don't disagree it worked this month. Those are great stats. I'm not knocking it. However, among folks I know personally, no one is able to duplicate that. I don't know you and one month is nothing.

I can tell you I worked the living hell out of my forum and got those results. I'm not impressed. I have nothing to gain by being honest and I in no way want to hurt any one. It is what it is.

I truly wish you the best. I hope you continue in your trend. That's why we do this, right?

BTW, the stats I had were greatly, no hugely, higher then where you started and my lowest of lows afterward were still way way better still than you best so far. You have a long way to go before you can claim "success" or have anything to compare. Any new site could pull that off when you crunch the numbers on your current scale.

My lowest low didn't put me out of business, but I felt it, big time.
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#27   10-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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BTW, the stats I had were greatly, no hugely, higher then where you started and my lowest of lows afterward were still way way better still than you best so far. You have a long way to go before you can claim "success" or have anything to compare. Any new site could pull that off when you crunch the numbers on your current scale.
Would you like a cookie? Wow, you're great that you have a HUGE amount of traffic compared to my forum. My site has been running since Nov. 1st 2006. If you'd like stats to back then you can have it, but I'm sure you'd just like to dismiss that somehow as well.

A new forum isn't going to just get up and create content itself, it's also not going to increase its rankings in SERPs unless you do something. I claim "success" right now because I'm happy. You can sit here and say I don't have success but I'm enjoying the site, and so are my members, sounds like success to me. I just think you need some help because you seem to be upset with anything that shows a opinion differing from your own.

Like I said above that you didn't comment on, your other site you're "Watching" seems to be slowing down, not because of vBSEO, but because no one is online anymore. I'm sure you'll translate that into vBSEO's fault, but if members stuck around it wouldn't matter. You look at what you want to look at, maybe broaden your horizons a bit

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#28   10-27-2007, 10:56 AM
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Okie dokie. Nice rant. Let me know when you get over spending that buck fifty and want to talk reality.

I don't want a pissing match, that's why I waited so long before posting such stats. I waited to see if it was a fluke. It's not.

I'm not saying you are doing bad, in fact I said "I hope you continue in your trend." But the reality is, it's not a "trend" yet.

Stop pouting and be come back in six months and either repeat putting me in my place with stats or realize what most of us that know better knew and proved.

I could give you so many reasons why new sites and established sites can't be compared with vBSEO results, but I fear it would be lost.
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#29   10-27-2007, 11:34 AM
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now play nice guys
The truth is, you can measure success at any point. If you're starting a new forum, and you're goal is to have 300 members in 3 months and you make it, I'd say it's a success

Just keep working on the site, adding content, helping users out, posting news, and I'm sure everyones site will be as successful as they wish them to be.
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#30   10-27-2007, 11:45 AM
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I think the problem is numbers. I'm not trying to piss in the guys Wheaties. I'm just pointing out how complicated statistics are.

His stats will always improve unless he turns his server off. He started from scratch.

An established site can be compared realistically before and after. And waiting one year, as Joe Ward says to, is like wow, the best sales pitch I ever heard!

In ten months I practically lost that site. Thank god it's not my bread and butter. The non vBSEO site of mine, both started and worked the same since day one, kicked the vBSEO sites ass!

That is tangible proof IMO. Proof of what remains to be seen. I have to look under the hood when it's opened.
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