vBSEO Case Study

**Rocket 442** · 09-05-2007, 08:57 AM

Well I got a pleasant surprise today.

F-Body Online is now ranked 15th for F-Body on google.

This is a HUGE Jump in just a few weeks for me. If anyone knows all the f-body sites, its an extremely competitive field and I'm stoked.

Anyways, I believe its got a lot to do with vBSEO which I installed 20 days ago. Heres some quick stats

20 day update:

July 15th - August 14th Stats: Full Month

August 15th - September 4th Stats: 20 Days

So far I'd say its working. Registrations are up as well.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-05-2007, 09:19 AM

Congrats Rocket

I see 200 mill results for f-body, very impressive

**sagar** · 09-05-2007, 09:25 AM

what else did you do apart from adding vbseo?

**Rocket 442** · 09-05-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jijo

what else did you do apart from adding vbseo?

Nothing extremely new.

Haven't paid a dime for advertising for the site ever. Welcome Header turned into an image, got Bamastangguy to help me with the url rewrites and options for vBSEO.

And basically just was patient for about 8 months and gathered a small but committed member base. We've still only got 207 members, but that should go up much faster now that I'm pretty high on google.

**Rocket 442** · 09-12-2007, 05:01 PM

Site seems to be starting to push ahead a bit more now that Google has been ranking me within the top 20 for quite a few words. We're still a small forum, but posts, registrations, and overall activity have been up for the past month.

Sept. 15th is the first full month that I'll have to compare vBSEO to a month before without it, so I'll update that as soon as it gets here.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-12-2007, 05:41 PM

are you getting multiple registrations a day ?

**Rocket 442** · 09-12-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

are you getting multiple registrations a day ?

It's just about there. I'll still have days where I get 0, but average is 1.7/day now, way up from about .6/day 2 months ago

**Yogesh Sarkar** · 09-18-2007, 10:01 AM

Thats good, however I would like to know by how much percentage your search engine referral traffic has increased since you added vbseo.

**Rocket 442** · 09-18-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yogesh Sarkar

Thats good, however I would like to know by how much percentage your search engine referral traffic has increased since you added vbseo.

Ask and you will receive:coolgleamA:

July 15-Aug 14 SE Traffic:
315 Google
15 Yahoo
1 MSN
1 AOL

Aug 15-Sep 14:
1,118 Google
65 Yahoo
12 AOL
11 MSN

I dont feel like doing the math, but its a 300%+ increase.

**Yogesh Sarkar** · 09-18-2007, 11:33 AM

Thats a pretty significant boost in search engine referrals, looks like VBSEO is doing its job well!

**Rocket 442** · 09-19-2007, 12:23 PM

Yeah, I have to say I'm very impressed and I'm usually a pretty skeptical person. I do wish I had some more Yahoo! clicks but I'll work on that.

**Rocket 442** · 09-27-2007, 04:16 PM

My vBSEO Experience after 30+ days.

F-Body Online - Camaro and Firebird Forums has been running since Nov. 1st 2006, and we had been slowly creeping up in stats and SERP’s during that time as we grew our member base to about 175 users. Then I bit the bullet and bought vBSEO in August and installed it on August 15th. I have been using Google Analytics for quite some time so it has helped me to see where vBSEO could possibly be helping/hurting the site.

Let me begin by saying I am not an affiliate and don’t use their affiliate system, so this is not to get you to buy it so I receive a cut of the money, but IT IS WORTH THE MONEY from everything I’ve seen first hand from F-Body Online.

Since August 15th our stats have doubled in pageviews and unique visits per month, and tripled our Search Engine generated traffic from Google, Yahoo!, Live, MSN, and others. We’ve gone from 175 members to 217 in just over a month which is our largest member growth yet. Visitors who find us are also sticking around longer with our pages per visit going from 3.03(7/15-8/14) to 7.01(8/15-9/14) which usually means people are finding what they want when they visit.

So there it is; my experience in just 1 month with vBSEO. I’ve got other basic search engine optimization tricks on the site, but nothing that can’t be done on any other forum.

**Brandon Sheley** · 09-27-2007, 07:49 PM

Looks great Rocket

**bdude** · 09-27-2007, 10:21 PM

Stop making me jealous!! I wish I had never opened this thread now

**Rocket 442** · 10-22-2007, 12:36 PM

I'm now 18th for "Camaro forums" in google
10th for "firebird forums" in google
10th for "f body" and "f-body"
10th for "f-body forums" in google, and 7th in Y!, 8th in Alta Vista.
10th for "f body forums" in google, 14th on MSN

I'd say I'm doing pretty well for the size of my site, its age, and the competition.

Still got a lot of work to do though.

But I am happy I'm slowly moving up for some solid terms:spot:

**Yogesh Sarkar** · 10-23-2007, 12:16 PM

That's great, however how much effort are you making on getting backlinks?

**Rocket 442** · 10-23-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yogesh Sarkar

That's great, however how much effort are you making on getting backlinks?

To be honest. absolutely nothing.

Haven't paid a cent for any links, and really haven't gotten many backlinks. If I did, I'm sure I'd have even better results.

**Yogesh Sarkar** · 10-23-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket 442

To be honest. absolutely nothing.

Haven't paid a cent for any links, and really haven't gotten many backlinks. If I did, I'm sure I'd have even better results.

Even with lack of effort you got over 2700 backlinks in yahoo!

**Rocket 442** · 10-24-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yogesh Sarkar

Even with lack of effort you got over 2700 backlinks in yahoo!

That's still not that many, especially when you look at some of the competition I'm going against. I started the site knowing there was a bunch of big forums already, but I didn't let that stop me. If you make somewhere that people like and optimize it a tad you'll more than likely be successful.

**Rocket 442** · 10-25-2007, 08:55 PM

vBSEO review - 2 months

vBSEO seems to be helping. Especially with Yahoo! this past month.

**James** · 10-26-2007, 08:45 AM

Looking good. Those are some nice increase in traffic from the search engines.

**noppid** · 10-26-2007, 11:28 AM

Here's my results.

vbseo-stats.jpg

Those are Uniques. Not hits and it was a large number.

**Rocket 442** · 10-26-2007, 11:58 AM

Here are my uniques, month before install in Green, month after in Blue. I'd say its been working.

**noppid** · 10-26-2007, 12:02 PM

I don't doubt there are outside influences, but let's not get too excited about a months worth of stats.

I'll be looking in after 3 more months. I'm not knocking it. But stats require a lot more time to qualify them as consistent.

Nice improvements. Let's see if it sticks.

I'm watching this one too. vBSEO Test Results - vBulletin FAQ Forums

**Rocket 442** · 10-26-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noppid

I don't doubt there are outside influences, but let's not get too excited about a months worth of stats.

I'll be looking in after 3 more months. I'm not knocking it. But stats require a lot more time to qualify them as consistent.

Nice improvements. Let's see if it sticks.

I'm watching this one too. vBSEO Test Results - vBulletin FAQ Forums

I guess people just don't like to believe me OTHER THAN vBSEO I have not done ANYTHING differently on my forums. My Keywords are doing much better than ever before I installed vBSEO since I installed it, and increase can't be "outside influences" because I'm the admin and owner and know what was going on. I still to this day have not paid for a backlink, gone out and really searched for places for backlinks and only have my site in maybe 3 directories (counting dmoz).

Installing vBSEO on an already established forum is going to make it harder to see results because of the re-indexing of pages, but looking at his car audio talk site he has there it also looks like he's not pushing it as much as he was before he installed vBSEO. I've got as many active members on my small site in 24 hours as he does on that audio site, so I really don't see that
You can look here and see what i mean. Looks like he's really forgotten about the site after July. That isn't vBSEO, that is the Admin. He's had 2 homepage posts in the past month, yet in July he had about 10. Maybe you should look at that as well

Car Audio Talk Homepage News - Car Audio Forum

I'll be posting up more updates, so maybe you'll get to see it not work, but by the looks of it, it's working quite fine for me.

**noppid** · 10-26-2007, 12:31 PM

I don't disagree it worked this month. Those are great stats. I'm not knocking it. However, among folks I know personally, no one is able to duplicate that. I don't know you and one month is nothing.

I can tell you I worked the living hell out of my forum and got those results. I'm not impressed. I have nothing to gain by being honest and I in no way want to hurt any one. It is what it is.

I truly wish you the best. I hope you continue in your trend. That's why we do this, right?

BTW, the stats I had were greatly, no hugely, higher then where you started and my lowest of lows afterward were still way way better still than you best so far. You have a long way to go before you can claim "success" or have anything to compare. Any new site could pull that off when you crunch the numbers on your current scale.

My lowest low didn't put me out of business, but I felt it, big time.

**Rocket 442** · 10-27-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by noppid

BTW, the stats I had were greatly, no hugely, higher then where you started and my lowest of lows afterward were still way way better still than you best so far. You have a long way to go before you can claim "success" or have anything to compare. Any new site could pull that off when you crunch the numbers on your current scale.

Would you like a cookie? Wow, you're great that you have a HUGE amount of traffic compared to my forum. My site has been running since Nov. 1st 2006. If you'd like stats to back then you can have it, but I'm sure you'd just like to dismiss that somehow as well.

A new forum isn't going to just get up and create content itself, it's also not going to increase its rankings in SERPs unless you do something. I claim "success" right now because I'm happy. You can sit here and say I don't have success but I'm enjoying the site, and so are my members, sounds like success to me. I just think you need some help because you seem to be upset with anything that shows a opinion differing from your own.

Like I said above that you didn't comment on, your other site you're "Watching" seems to be slowing down, not because of vBSEO, but because no one is online anymore. I'm sure you'll translate that into vBSEO's fault, but if members stuck around it wouldn't matter. You look at what you want to look at, maybe broaden your horizons a bit

**noppid** · 10-27-2007, 07:56 AM

Okie dokie. Nice rant. Let me know when you get over spending that buck fifty and want to talk reality.

I don't want a pissing match, that's why I waited so long before posting such stats. I waited to see if it was a fluke. It's not.

I'm not saying you are doing bad, in fact I said "I hope you continue in your trend." But the reality is, it's not a "trend" yet.

Stop pouting and be come back in six months and either repeat putting me in my place with stats or realize what most of us that know better knew and proved.

I could give you so many reasons why new sites and established sites can't be compared with vBSEO results, but I fear it would be lost.

**Brandon Sheley** · 10-27-2007, 08:34 AM

now play nice guys

The truth is, you can measure success at any point. If you're starting a new forum, and you're goal is to have 300 members in 3 months and you make it, I'd say it's a success

Just keep working on the site, adding content, helping users out, posting news, and I'm sure everyones site will be as successful as they wish them to be.

**noppid** · 10-27-2007, 08:45 AM

I think the problem is numbers. I'm not trying to piss in the guys Wheaties. I'm just pointing out how complicated statistics are.

His stats will always improve unless he turns his server off. He started from scratch.

An established site can be compared realistically before and after. And waiting one year, as Joe Ward says to, is like wow, the best sales pitch I ever heard!

In ten months I practically lost that site. Thank god it's not my bread and butter. The non vBSEO site of mine, both started and worked the same since day one, kicked the vBSEO sites ass!

That is tangible proof IMO. Proof of what remains to be seen. I have to look under the hood when it's opened.