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#1   11-22-2006, 11:13 PM
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vbseo~ url & thread names


do you think it is beneficial or not to have thread and url to have the same name...

like if it is about vbseo information it would be
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http://www.vbulletinzone.com/vbseo-information
just wondering what everyone's take on this was.
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#2   11-22-2006, 11:21 PM
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I Prefer the URL's as they are on this forum. This is how I have them set on all 5 of my vbulletin forums.

I don't see a benefit, at least for google, in having the keywords in the URL.
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#3   11-22-2006, 11:30 PM
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I don't think there is an advantage of putting the keywords in the url either. All of my forums use the url setup that is used on here.

1) If I change the thread title it doesn't change the thread url (even though it is 301 redirected it doesn't transfer Pagerank)
2) It is a very short url and I think it looks cleaner and more professional
3) The thread urls can get very long if the thread titles are long (if you use stop words or limit the amount of words in the urls then you get incomplete list of keywords in url)

I just don't see it doing any good myself.
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#4   11-23-2006, 12:29 AM
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I don't think there is an advantage of putting the keywords in the url either. All of my forums use the url setup that is used on here.

1) If I change the thread title it doesn't change the thread url (even though it is 301 redirected it doesn't transfer Pagerank)
2) It is a very short url and I think it looks cleaner and more professional
3) The thread urls can get very long if the thread titles are long (if you use stop words or limit the amount of words in the urls then you get incomplete list of keywords in url)

I just don't see it doing any good myself.

good to know...i am starting to read about seo so all information is good!
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#5   11-26-2006, 05:10 PM
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I use and prefer the short URLs like those on this forum for the same reasons that Brent listed.
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#6   11-28-2006, 02:23 PM
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I don't think there is an advantage of putting the keywords in the url either. All of my forums use the url setup that is used on here.

1) If I change the thread title it doesn't change the thread url (even though it is 301 redirected it doesn't transfer Pagerank)
2) It is a very short url and I think it looks cleaner and more professional
3) The thread urls can get very long if the thread titles are long (if you use stop words or limit the amount of words in the urls then you get incomplete list of keywords in url)

I just don't see it doing any good myself.
Is this up-to-date information ?! Last year I read a lot about SEO and the general consensus was that keywords in URLs are a very good practice.

To be honest, I don't understand why you bought VBSEO if you don't use this feature. Maybe you can tell me what else in VBSEO is so valuable to worth 150 USD.



Regards,
Razvan M.
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#7   11-28-2006, 02:30 PM
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Is this up-to-date information ?! Last year I read a lot about SEO and the general consensus was that keywords in URLs are a very good practice.

To be honest, I don't understand why you bought VBSEO if you don't use this feature. Maybe you can tell me what else in VBSEO is so valuable to worth 150 USD.



Regards,
Razvan M.
For Google to place high ranking power on keywords in a url would be very irresponsible on their part and would be very easy to manipulate by other websites.

From this thread: http://www.vbulletinzone.com/t9/
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Why Does vBulletin Need SEO?
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vBulletin has alot of flaws out of the box in regards to SEO but it's biggest flaw is it's url structure. For an example of why you should take advantage of mod_rewrite to remove duplicate urls and consolidate them into one url per thread you can take a look at this example that shows how many urls can point to the same thread on vBulletin: Why are my Google ranks so awful? - vBulletin SEO Forums. I don't know much of another way to stress this to you other than to put it frankly that vBulletin out of the box is not SEO friendly. If Google/Yahoo/MSN arrive at your site via 5 different urls and all 5 of those urls are going to the exact same content then how in the world can the search engine choose the correct url? It will help you greatly to take advantage of mod_rewrite and consolidate all those urls into one url. So Google can only find one url for one thread. One url for one post. This can not in anyway hurt you. Logic says it can only help.

So I ask you, multiple urls for the same thread or one?

I highly recommend taking advantage of mod_rewrite to consolidate all those URLS into one url per thread. For more information on current products that can do this please refer to vBulletin SEO Friendly URLs.

You should also store the style sheet in an external file in order to remove the style information from the code.
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