Which is better?

VBSEO without a doubt, also zoints is no logger supported and neither it is in development, so don't use it unless you are ready to get your hands dirty.

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thanks for the advice

any other opinons?

BMW M3 vs a ford pinto

Catch my drift? and the ford pinto is zoints

vBSEO is by far the most complete and robust forum rewrite solution available for vBulletin, their support alone is worth the license cost, let alone the absolutely wonderful product they've put together

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There is also another paid option, NuSEO.PHP Features - NuHIT, no idea how well it works.

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Zoints FTW, my opinion, I use it on all my sites, and rank well, no problem. vBSEO I don't think is worth the money.

If someone gave it to me would i use it? probably, just sayin, i wouldn't buy it.

and it not gonna magically make you money and buy you a BMW, no matter what the hype.......

*braces for lashings*

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NuSEO is definitely a no no. Their has been no recent development, and is way unsupported. Zoints is free, but is also unsupported. If you are serious about SEO, then I would look into vBSEO. And like Caddyman said, it is going to take work, you just do not turn on vBSEO and become a PR 10 instantly.

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wow, that was easy

Mike's right, on-site optimization is a small part of the overall equation that is SEO

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Thanks for the input

Can anybody give me an idea what I can expect to pay for initial set up optimization which includes VBseo and configuring the site initially so as to get it started on the right foot

Thanks